Comments for Rethinking the αlpha and Ωmega http://www.rethinkingao.com Rethinking the Alpha and Omega: The Creation of an Evolutionist ... The Defusing of Armageddon Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:52:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 Comment on Pinning the Tail on the Antichrist by Tilsinbebitter http://www.rethinkingao.com/?p=226#comment-931 Tilsinbebitter Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:52:00 +0000 http://www.rethinkingao.com/?p=226#comment-931 Hi, fellow Navy guy here. We are doing this TTP in Afghanistan right now, and I found a few things didn't sit right with me after the first session, and stumbled on to this blog. I'm probably a 6 on the spectrum you listed way back near the beginning of this thing, and have never heard of preterism. I grew up SBC, but just never ascribed to certain beliefs like Genesis being literal, the cessation of the Holy Spirit, and evolution being in opposition of Christian belief. Truthfully though it wasn't because I was being rebellious, evolution, a metaphorical interpretation of Genesis and what not just made sense to me. I'm sure you know how my views are received when I voice them... I actually decided not to attend the other sessions with the unit rather than cause disunity. I was wondering if there is a thread on here with a compiled list of some of the reading you would recommend. I am already picking up Relics of Eden and the Walton on Genesis. Also you mentioned you're 12 "journey" steps, but I am having trouble picking them out. Lastly, I notice that you have not been active on here for several months, hopefully that is because you have just been busy. Hi, fellow Navy guy here. We are doing this TTP in Afghanistan right now, and I found a few things didn’t sit right with me after the first session, and stumbled on to this blog.

I’m probably a 6 on the spectrum you listed way back near the beginning of this thing, and have never heard of preterism. I grew up SBC, but just never ascribed to certain beliefs like Genesis being literal, the cessation of the Holy Spirit, and evolution being in opposition of Christian belief. Truthfully though it wasn’t because I was being rebellious, evolution, a metaphorical interpretation of Genesis and what not just made sense to me. I’m sure you know how my views are received when I voice them…

I actually decided not to attend the other sessions with the unit rather than cause disunity. I was wondering if there is a thread on here with a compiled list of some of the reading you would recommend. I am already picking up Relics of Eden and the Walton on Genesis.

Also you mentioned you’re 12 “journey” steps, but I am having trouble picking them out.

Lastly, I notice that you have not been active on here for several months, hopefully that is because you have just been busy.

]]> Comment on Pinning the Tail on the Antichrist by Rivera7407 http://www.rethinkingao.com/?p=226#comment-930 Rivera7407 Sun, 15 Apr 2012 22:44:00 +0000 http://www.rethinkingao.com/?p=226#comment-930 From Ariel: George W. as King George III John McCain as John Adams (look at the painted portrait) Prince William the Conqueror and his brother Harry the Harald Hadrada I've raised the Army of the Dead to invade Middle Earth(East)...The Holy Bible is a like a storybook just like the Lord of the Rings. -by Ariel Rivera the Real Antichrist from San Diego.30. I know the antichrist is about Adam from the Garden of Eden. And I am Him. I've been talking with God for 6 years and I want you to know that. God Bless! From Ariel:

George W. as King George III

John McCain as John Adams (look at the painted portrait)

Prince William the Conqueror

and his brother Harry the Harald Hadrada

I’ve raised the Army of the Dead to invade Middle Earth(East)…The Holy Bible is a like a storybook just like the Lord of the Rings.

-by Ariel Rivera the Real Antichrist from San Diego.30.

I know the antichrist is about Adam from the Garden of Eden. And I am Him. I’ve been talking with God for 6 years and I want you to know that. God Bless!

]]> Comment on Searching for Truth in “The Truth Project” — Lesson 7: Sociology — The Divine Imprint by JR http://www.rethinkingao.com/?p=7#comment-929 JR Sat, 18 Feb 2012 04:23:00 +0000 http://www.rethinkingao.com/2010/03/searching-for-truth-in-the-truth-project-%e2%80%94-lesson-7-sociology-%e2%80%94-the-divine-imprint.html#comment-929 I would suggest that a closer reading of history would lead to the conclusion that our society didn't "evolve," in the sense that democracy or moral/ethical laws causes a society to survive better. In fact, dictatorships are more efficient from an evolutionary standpoint especially since it would obviously be the dictators whose genes would be passed on most successfully. I would suggest that a closer reading of history would lead to the conclusion that our society didn’t “evolve,” in the sense that democracy or moral/ethical laws causes a society to survive better. In fact, dictatorships are more efficient from an evolutionary standpoint especially since it would obviously be the dictators whose genes would be passed on most successfully.

]]> Comment on Searching for Truth in “The Truth Project” — Lesson 4: Theology — Who Is God? by JR http://www.rethinkingao.com/?p=15#comment-928 JR Sat, 18 Feb 2012 02:14:00 +0000 http://www.rethinkingao.com/2010/02/searching-for-truth-in-the-truth-project-%e2%80%94-lesson-4-theology-%e2%80%94-who-is-god.html#comment-928 Anyone who watches Dell Tackett knows that he's a dramaticist. Anyone who thinks he really was going to throw away his faith because the Kings list didn't add up is naive and I would suggest doesn't understand oratory. It's also quite possible that he wouldn't consider Enns and Sparks to be evangelical since most people see inerrancy as a key point of evangelicalism. Considering that Enns was suspended from teaching based on the book (http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/trevinwax/2008/03/29/the-peter-enns-controversy/), I'd say that Tackett would be on safe ground. (See here for a good review of Sparks http://www.reformation21.org/shelf-life/review-gods-word-in-human-words.php ) I'm sure you'll find lots to criticize in every session, because Dell is going to present a conservative evangelical viewpoint and you have obviously left that behind if you ever had it in the first place. Anyone who watches Dell Tackett knows that he’s a dramaticist. Anyone who thinks he really was going to throw away his faith because the Kings list didn’t add up is naive and I would suggest doesn’t understand oratory.

It’s also quite possible that he wouldn’t consider Enns and Sparks to be evangelical since most people see inerrancy as a key point of evangelicalism. Considering that Enns was suspended from teaching based on the book (http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/trevinwax/2008/03/29/the-peter-enns-controversy/), I’d say that Tackett would be on safe ground. (See here for a good review of Sparks http://www.reformation21.org/shelf-life/review-gods-word-in-human-words.php )

I’m sure you’ll find lots to criticize in every session, because Dell is going to present a conservative evangelical viewpoint and you have obviously left that behind if you ever had it in the first place.

]]> Comment on Searching for Truth in “The Truth Project” — Lesson 1: Veritology — What Is Truth? by JR http://www.rethinkingao.com/?p=18#comment-927 JR Sat, 18 Feb 2012 01:29:00 +0000 http://www.rethinkingao.com/2010/01/searching-for-truth-in-the-truth-project-%e2%80%94-lesson-1-veritology-%e2%80%94-what-is-truth.html#comment-927 I would argue that Norman Geisler doesn't think for a moment that his 12 points would convince a non-Christian. He is simply making 12 statements that he believes he can defend -- it is the framework of his argument not the content. The Truth Project is not designed to convince skeptics, it is designed to educate people who've already subscribed to a certain viewpoint--the conservative evangelical viewpoint. Dell Tackett uses are fair bit of short-hand. When he says "most scholars" he is not misleading his audience -- they would understand this to mean "most scholars whose opinion you would value" - in otherwise, "most conservative evangelical scholars." This is quite common, and if you don't do this kind of thing when you're teaching you end up wasting inordinate amounts of time explaining concepts everyone already assumes. I would argue that Norman Geisler doesn’t think for a moment that his 12 points would convince a non-Christian. He is simply making 12 statements that he believes he can defend — it is the framework of his argument not the content.

The Truth Project is not designed to convince skeptics, it is designed to educate people who’ve already subscribed to a certain viewpoint–the conservative evangelical viewpoint. Dell Tackett uses are fair bit of short-hand. When he says “most scholars” he is not misleading his audience — they would understand this to mean “most scholars whose opinion you would value” – in otherwise, “most conservative evangelical scholars.”

This is quite common, and if you don’t do this kind of thing when you’re teaching you end up wasting inordinate amounts of time explaining concepts everyone already assumes.

]]> Comment on A Response to Tim Keller’s “Killer Argument” Against a Mythological Adam by Mike Beidler http://www.rethinkingao.com/?p=4#comment-926 Mike Beidler Mon, 23 Jan 2012 02:35:00 +0000 http://www.rethinkingao.com/2011/06/a-response-to-tim-kellers-killer-argument-against-a-mythological-adam.html#comment-926 Thomas, Thanks for your question. For the answer, I'll refer you to Dennis Venema's article "Genesis and the Genome: Genomics Evidence for Human-Ape Common Ancestry and Ancestral Hominid Population Sizes" in the 3rd Quarter 2010 issue of <i>Perspectives in Science and Christian Faith</i>: http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/2010/PSCF9-10Venema.pdf Once read, feel free to come back and discuss. :D Thomas,

Thanks for your question. For the answer, I’ll refer you to Dennis Venema’s article “Genesis and the Genome: Genomics Evidence for Human-Ape Common Ancestry and Ancestral Hominid Population Sizes” in the 3rd Quarter 2010 issue of Perspectives in Science and Christian Faith:

http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/2010/PSCF9-10Venema.pdf

Once read, feel free to come back and discuss. :D

]]> Comment on A Response to Tim Keller’s “Killer Argument” Against a Mythological Adam by Thomas Fasoldt http://www.rethinkingao.com/?p=4#comment-925 Thomas Fasoldt Mon, 23 Jan 2012 02:21:00 +0000 http://www.rethinkingao.com/2011/06/a-response-to-tim-kellers-killer-argument-against-a-mythological-adam.html#comment-925 Please help me. How exactly does the DNA argue against a historic Adam and Eve? Please help me. How exactly does the DNA argue against a historic Adam and Eve?

]]> Comment on Eschatological Thieves in the Night by Mike Beidler http://www.rethinkingao.com/?p=198#comment-924 Mike Beidler Sun, 01 Jan 2012 23:18:00 +0000 http://www.rethinkingao.com/?p=198#comment-924 Sara, If you don't mind me asking, what prompted you to adopt an atheistic paradigm? Sara,

If you don’t mind me asking, what prompted you to adopt an atheistic paradigm?

]]> Comment on Eschatological Thieves in the Night by Sarahearl67 http://www.rethinkingao.com/?p=198#comment-923 Sarahearl67 Sun, 01 Jan 2012 22:12:00 +0000 http://www.rethinkingao.com/?p=198#comment-923 i cannot remember who had this painting when i was a kid. i am watching a thing on netflix about religion in appalachian, and they flashed this image. i am so glad to know the background on it. my dad was a minister, and i am an atheist. images like this scared me into religion. but that only lasted so long. i cannot remember who had this painting when i was a kid. i am watching a thing on netflix about religion in appalachian, and they flashed this image. i am so glad to know the background on it. my dad was a minister, and i am an atheist. images like this scared me into religion. but that only lasted so long.

]]> Comment on Eschatological Thieves in the Night by Mike Beidler http://www.rethinkingao.com/?p=198#comment-922 Mike Beidler Thu, 29 Dec 2011 00:33:00 +0000 http://www.rethinkingao.com/?p=198#comment-922 Mitchell, Glad to year that you're open-minded to learning about alternative eschatological positions. Of course, my story is "bass ackwards" from yours: My wrestling with eschatology allowed me to be more open to other views on creationism and evolution. I guess that can be said for anyone who's undergone a major theological paradigm shift. Mitchell,

Glad to year that you’re open-minded to learning about alternative eschatological positions. Of course, my story is “bass ackwards” from yours: My wrestling with eschatology allowed me to be more open to other views on creationism and evolution. I guess that can be said for anyone who’s undergone a major theological paradigm shift.

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